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Thursday, July 1, 2010

Guest post: A primer on human IgE antibody serology

Dear Readers:

In response to the concerns about an increase in the remote practice of allergy, which may possibly be influenced by direct allergy laboratory marketing campaigns, the AAAAI and ACAAI, in conjunction with Don Aaronson from the JCAAI formed a joint taskforce in 2006 on allergy diagnostic testing called the Specific IgE Test Task Force (SETTaF) . SETTaF’s purpose has been to develop educational materials that focus on the appropriate diagnostic evaluation of the allergic/suspected patient. In late 2008 SETTaF published a monograph directed at health care professionals, who care for allergic patients entitled the “Pearls and pitfalls of allergy diagnostic testing: report from the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology/American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology Specific IgE Test Task Force.”(1) The task force is currently engaged in the development of a PowerPoint presentation and several monographs on diagnostic allergy testing that are directed at primary care professionals.

The key message throughout these educational materials is that the allergy evaluation must be initiated by and culminated with the patient's clinical history. It must be directed by a health care professional with sufficient understanding of diagnostic allergy testing to use the information obtained from his/her evaluation of the patient to determine: 1. What diagnostic allergy tests to order. 2. How to interpret the diagnostic allergy test results. 3. How to use the information obtained from the allergy evaluation to develop an appropriate therapeutic treatment plan.

This issue of the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology presents a monograph developed by SETTaF on serological measurement of allergen-specific IgE testing specifically for the North American allergist. Per the protocol of a joint AAAAI/ACAAI task force, the SETTaF’s monographs are reviewed by the Board of Directors/Regents of both organizations. During this review, a question and answer dialogue evolved and the organizations' Boards suggested including the ‘Q&A’ with the document.

The members of SETTaF hope you find the monograph educational. The following questions and answers represent the views of the individuals and not SETTaF or the Board of Directors/Regents of the AAAAI/ACAAI.

Sincerely,
Linda Cox, MD
SETTaF chair


Allergy Diagnostic Testing Primer: Questions and Answers

Below are some questions that were raised by ACAAI reviewers that will highlight some of the questions readers may have and an attempt by the authors to provide answers, where they are available.

Issue 1: Use of serum specific-IgE in clinical decision-making

Dana Wallace , MD (ACAAI president-elect): This report on the evolution of serum specific- IgE (s-IgE) testing is a timely and much needed document for the clinical allergist. While technically well written, it brings up perhaps more questions and confusion than it answers or clarifies. While the authors and many other academicians may find it clear and easy to understand, I am not sure that this will be the case for most clinicians. Particularly difficult will be the translation of this information into clinical decision-making support tools. It would be very helpful if an additional section could be added: “When and how to use specific IgE in vitro tests to improve patient care”. I would suggest that in this section, the authors try to answer the following questions (among others):

Linda Cox, MD ( SETTaF chair): I think one has to consider s-IgE similar to skin testing in terms of when and how it would be used in patient care and the decision on which type of test(s) would vary with the patient and other circumstances.

Brock Williams, PhD (Primer author and SETTaF member): The hard question to answer is when and how to use s-IgE testing to improve patient care. To me, this deals mostly with how to interpret the results and this is very patient dependent. Again the problem stems from the fact that allergic symptoms are variable both within and between individuals. This and the large number of variables (age, gender, exposure, infection, etc.) clearly need to be taken into account for the interpretation of s-IgE tests. We do know that s-IgE is closely linked to symptoms but levels and the allergens it is directed against differ among different individuals. Thus, in today’s world, s-IgE results will best be utilized by considering them as a risk factor rather than an absolute diagnostic fact.

Robert Hamilton, PhD: The ultimate decision of when to use a confirmatory IgE antibody test (skin test or serology) comes down to the physician deciding that there is sufficient clinical evidence to warrant a possible diagnosis of allergic disease. This concept is integral to the diagnostic algorithm built into the diagnostic practice parameters. As such, to try to list all the patient and physician decisions to determine when a diagnostic IgE antibody confirmatory test (skin test or serology) should be run is (in my opinion) out of the intended scope of this article. This article summarizes what we know and what we do not know about the assays used to detect allergen-specific IgE antibody. I agree with Brock that prudent use of a positive specific IgE antibody result is as a risk factor for allergic disease and not as a definitive indicator of the presence of allergic disease.

Issue 2: Which is the ‘best’ specific IgE assay?

Dana Wallace, MD: Which of the three methods of specific-IgE measurement described within the Primer is most beneficial for making clinical decisions or should they all be viewed as equal?

Linda Cox, MD: There is agreement that the results are not assay inter-changeable. One thought is the different assays may be measuring different antibodies.

Brock Williams, PhD: Comparability of different methods – most studies indicate that the Phadia ImmunoCAP is far above the other two tests in overall performance (accuracy, precision, and quantitative ability). The problem is that for certain allergens and levels of s-IgE the assays are somewhat in agreement. For others, they are very different. I find the explanation that these assays are sometimes measuring different populations of antibodies to be rather absurd. To begin with I have seen no proof of this concept and our studies with chimeric antibodies (where the total IgE = specific IgE) indicate that for those allergens investigated the Siemens assay (formerly DPC-Alastat/Immulite) has major problems with its calibration and the Hycor assay (Agilent) has problems with under-representation of allergen on some of their solid phases. The major user of the Hycor assay is Labcorp and we know in the past some have suggested that they have modified this test in house to make it more profitable. The ImmunoCAP results (done in triplicate with blinded samples) was ‘spot on’ in these cases.

Robert Hamilton, PhD: I respectfully disagree with Brock on this issue. The most impartial examination of the inter-assay agreement issue indicates that all three methods display excellent precision, reproducibility and linearity. They do differ in the levels of IgE antibody that they detect and we currently do not know the reason for this. It is possibly a calibration issue, however, if there was a systematic bias caused by a calibration issue, we would see a consistent bias which we do not. My belief is that it has more to do with allergen heterogeneity between the methods. Thus to call the suggestion that the assays are measuring different populations of IgE antibody specificities "absurd" is too ‘heavy handed’. Brock, your data with the chimeric antibody are interesting and informative but not conclusive on a calibration issue.

We need to construct a better and more relevant experiment with human sera to try to dissect the answer to this question. Possibly this can be done with milk and peanut where we can identify the component specificities of IgE antibody using the ISAC and the components that are available on the ImmunoCAP. Then sera with defined distributions of IgE antibody can be analyzed by all 3 methods. So the binding of a serum containing 95% IgE anti-casein can be compared to a serum that contains 95% IgE anti-alpha-lactalbumin as a limited illustration of this concept. If we characterize many sera with a sufficient number of these component specificity distributions, we can examine this issue for a restricted number of allergen specificities.

In reality, we will probably not be able to definitively answer this question (at least to my satisfaction). So we are left with the conclusion that is stated in the primer article (which I believe is true) that these 3 assays measure different populations of IgE antibody. The causes are almost irrelevant as the 3 manufacturers are not in a position to change their assay formats. I discussed this issue personally with representative of each company during the last AAAAI meeting. At this point, we cannot say for sure which IgE antibody assay result is more "clinically relevant".

Issue 3: Is one assay too sensitive?

Dana Wallace, MD: Should one consider the Immulite too sensitive as it gives a higher reading of specific-IgE than the Hycor or ImmunoCap? Is there any general guide on comparing the results as the graph seems to show a trend?

Linda Cox, MD: One study did suggest Immulite overestimated s-IgE when the results of total IgE were compared with the hybridoma s-IgE results, which were all s-IgE. Brock and Bob are likely to have different answers

Brock Williams, PhD: The idea that if an assay gives a higher result it is better is fallacious. Again, the chimeric antibody results clearly demonstrate this. Accuracy is more important. Again, the calibration curve (total IgE tied to WHO standard) is very different for the Immulite system. This causes the amount of s-IgE measured to be overestimated particular at the high end with a number of different allergens. A requirement for quantification is that different dilutions (corrected for dilution) give you the same answer. In other words, they are linear and we have only seen this with the ImmunoCAP system.

The idea of sensitivity is also an area of great misunderstanding. This is because analytical sensitivity is a very different concept than clinical sensitivity and the two have often been confused. Analytical sensitivity deals with the low end of the assay, before you run into the background and is determined experimentally with statistical analysis in the laboratory. Clinical sensitivity deals with determining what level of s-IgE is capable of causing clinical symptoms upon exposure and in the near future, what particular allergenic substance it is directed against. Since the determination of clinical sensitivity depends upon the comparison to standards (patient history, puncture skin test, allergen organ challenges, etc.), which themselves have not been standardized and many of the cutoffs are arbitrary. In addition, the studies are dependent on the patient population studied so we really have very poor information in this area. Nevertheless, we mistakenly continue to use this concept to describe how well in a clinical sense these assays work. The same arguments can be used with regard to clinical specificity and, in my opinion, this has been very misleading in this field for quite some time.

Robert Hamilton, PhD: I agree with Brock that higher results produced by any one of the 3 assays are not more clinically relevant. The predictive power of the quantitative level of IgE antibody is discussed in the Primer article, with a caution that these published values need to be used judiciously. . On this issue I agree with what Brock has said about analytical versus clinical sensitivity. Analytically, all three assays can technically detect IgE antibody levels down to 0.1 kUa/L. Historically, the 0.35 kUa/L positive cutpoint was set based on the fact that levels above 0.35 had some clinical significance. We do not know and may never know the clinical significance of levels between 0.1 and 0.35 kUa/L. Interpretation also differs by allergen specificity as some clinicians judge low level Hymenoptera or peanut specific IgE levels differently than a ragweed specific IgE of the same level, because of their clinical relevance in relation to systemic reactions. Thus, a specific IgE level between 0.1 and 0.35 kUa/L needs to be cautiously and judiciously interpreted within the context of the patient’s clinical history.

Issue 4: Can the clinician compare a patient’s s-IgE if they were performed utilizing different assays?

Dana Wallace, MD: If one needs to compare levels of s-IgE and different methods have been used, should the clinician insist that they be repeated so that at least the methods match?

Recognizing that the ImmunoCap has the most published literature in food allergy and predictive levels for a negative food challenge, the clinician has often looked to this as preferred method. Is this still correct?

Linda Cox, MD: Yes. When the laboratory findings are inconsistent with the clinical history, it is recommended to repeat the analysis at the same or a different laboratory. If the results are different, how does the clinician interpret this data? Also recommend repeating with a different method-skin test if sIgE or vice versa. Clinical history is generally the deciding factor. This was a key message in the first SETTaF paper.

I believe the predictive value established in the earlier studies were somewhat specific to a particular population and cannot be universally applied across other age groups/disease.

Robert Hamilton, PhD: We know from the College of American Pathologists Proficiency Survey data that all 3 assay methods from 90% of the laboratories agree well in producing dichotomous measures of IgE antibody (presence/positive vs absence/negative). Therefore, if you are using IgE antibody measurements as a “risk factor” to consider with all the other variables in making the diagnosis, then the Immulite can detect the presence of IgE anti-peanut in a serum as well as an ImmunoCAP. So, if you are asking about the presence of IgE antibody as a risk factor, then “No”, re-analysis by a second assay method is not necessary.

However, there are the occasional spurious results generated by the occasional laboratory or spurious skin test results generated by the occasional clinic. These do occur. So, if the IgE antibody result (skin test or serology) is inconsistent with the clinical history, then it should be repeated, possibly with a different method. We learned this from Dr. Shapiro’s legal case involving Hymenoptera venom sensitivity.

If you are attempting to use the quantitative level to make a prediction about the presence of a clinically evident food allergy or wheeze in an asthmatic child, then published data will dictate what assay needs to be used. In this case the published quantitative predictive data to date are all from the ImmunoCAP. One cannot use the Immulite or Hycor data to make a decision based on published criteria generated with the ImmunoCAP. This will change if new published data are generated with the other two IgE antibody methods.

Issue 5: How important are patient characteristics (age, disease state, etc.) in interpreting s-IgE results?

Dana Wallace, MD: However, the article seems to imply that without knowing the age of the patient, the disease state, the allergen exposure mode and extent, and ratio of Specific IgE/Total IgE that was used in the published research studies and in the individual patient, these published guidelines may be inaccurate and perhaps useless. If this is the correct interpretation, it should be more clearly stated.

Just how important are the lack of affinity and clonality measurements in the overall clinical usefulness of interpreting the results of specific-IgE measurements?

Should we be dividing patient into groups below and above the 4% specific- IgE/Total IgE ratios? Would this help to predict severity of allergic reaction and/or response to treatment?

Linda Cox, MD: I not sure how important sIgE/total IgE. Again Bob and Brock can comment further. I think the importance of affinity and clonality is still be elucidated. This is an area that needs further research but an area of particular interest for Bob.

Brock Williams, PhD: I agree with Linda, that affinity and clonality are parameters that still need to be evaluated. I believe that the realization that certain allergens are much more relevant to symptom production (component resolved diagnosis) is likely to rectify this.

Robert Hamilton, PhD: Four variables contribute to the effectiveness of the IgE antibody response in inducing effector cell function: IgE antibody concentration, affinity, epitope clonality and specific to total IgE ratio or IgE specific activity. This has been clearly shown by the Christensen et al article in the JACI.2 All of these variables are important and constantly changing as the humoral immune response matures with continuing allergen exposure. And one of these alone cannot be shown at present to be an exclusive risk factor for interpreting IgE antibody results in the diagnostic decision process. I agree with Brock that future modifications to our serological assays (e.g., use of components, microarrays) may help us understand this better at the time of interpreting the diagnostic data. The patient demographics will always be critical to the interpretation of the IgE antibody serology as the clinical history is the final arbiter of the definitive diagnosis.

Issue 6: Is the significance of the s-IgE level different when the total IgE is low vs. high?

Dana Wallace, MD: Is it fair to say that when the total IgE level is very high, a high specific-IgE has limited meaning while a high specific-IgE with a low total IgE level is very significant?

Linda Cox, MD: Probably.

Brock Williams, PhD: Specific activity (s-IgE/T-IgE). While this concept makes some intuitive sense, it hasn’t yielded any concrete benefits. This is likely to be important when low levels of t-IgE are seen but really falls apart when multiple allergens and higher levels of s-IgE are seen. While this could be important in immunotherapy, presently it is an area for investigation and not ready for prime time in my opinion. This is particularly true when you investigate monosensitized patients, which is a rare situation for U.S. allergists. Again, I believe we have to further evaluate this concept in lieu of s-IgE to the allergens that actually are relevant (component resolved diagnosis).

Robert Hamilton, PhD: I agree with you all. The IgE specific activity has its most relevance when the total IgE is low and the % specific to total IgE is high. Use of the 4% IgE specific activity as a general criterion can be useful for evaluating patients on Xolair as Johannson et al have shown. However, we need more data to confirm its utility in applying it across the board in the general interpretation of IgE antibody data.

Issue 7: Can the clinician use the s-IgE/t-IgE ratio to predict response to allergen immunotherapy?

Dana Wallace, MD: Is there enough data for the clinician to calculate the specific IgE to total IgE ratio and predict the response to specific immunotherapy? If so what is the magic ratio? If not is there ongoing research that will answer this question? One paper looked at this and 16% was ≥16% was the magic number.3

Robert Hamilton, PhD: No. we need more data to show the utility of this measure in assessing immunotherapy efficacy. It should however be computed to evaluate its utility in future immunotherapy studies.
Brock Williams, Ph.D: I agree with Bob that it is premature to use s-IgE results to guide immunotherapy. This area certainly needs more study and again will probably be better understood when patients and their responses are understood in terms of the specific allergen components that are responsible for symptoms.

Issue 8: Can s-IgE be measured in a patient on Xolair® (omalizumab)?

Dana Wallace, MD: Should the clinician be using ImmunoCAP s-IgE when assessing the patient onXolair? What would be the utility of doing so?Is one looking for a defined endpoint?

Linda Cox, MD: I believe one can get reliable results with ImmunoCAP on s-IgE testing in patients on Xolair, which might be useful in determining if you are adequately dosing (i.e., under) but again Bob is the better person to answer this question

Brock Williams, PhD: Bob has shown quite clearly that the ImmunoCAP can be used with confidence in patients on Xolair.

Robert Hamilton, PhD: The article Brock is referring to clearly shows that IgE (total and allergen specific) can be accurately measured in patients on Xolair with the ImmunoCAP and not with the other two assay methods.4 The important questions are (1) what utility does the measurement of total IgE and specific IgE provide for a patient on Xolair? and (2) where do “free IgE” measurements (IgE not bound with Xolair) fit into the evaluation of the Xolair patient? Examine the Primer article as it addresses these questions.

Issue 9: Will ImmuoCAP rapid®, a non-quantitative allergy test designed for the office setting useful tool for primary care professionals?

Dana Wallace, MD: Will the ImmunoCAP rapid be a good tool for primary care physicians? Should we embrace it?

Linda Cox, MD: The rapid screen office allergy test, which is similar to a pregnancy test is intended for the primary care office. It will likely bring more attention to allergy and to the allergist. Thus, indirectly, I think it is good for the specialty, but there needs to be some education about appropriate use and referral.

Robert Hamilton, PhD: The ImmunoCAP rapid is FDA cleared and we will see how it fits into the overall diagnostic process in the USA. It is too early to tell if it will be useful or abused. The Primer article simply introduces the ImmunoCAP rapid . Allergists need to know that the ImmuoCAP rapid®, data may be introduced by the patient at an allergist’s office visit.
Brock Williams, Ph.D. The ImmunoCap rapid is much like a laboratory test for cholesterol in that it can be interpreted as a measure of risk. The caveats mentioned above in interpreting the results in lieu of the patient’s history most certainly will have to be evaluated on a case by case basis.

References:
1. Cox L, Williams B, Sicherer S, et al. Pearls and pitfalls of allergy diagnostic testing: report from the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology/American Academy of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology Specific IgE Test Task Force. Ann Allergy Asthma Immunol 2008;101:580-92.
2. Christensen LH, Holm J, Lund G, Riise E, Lund K. Several distinct properties of the IgE repertoire determine effector cell degranulation in response to allergen challenge. J Allergy Clin Immunol 2008;122:298-304.
3. Di Lorenzo G, Mansueto P, Pacor ML, et al. Evaluation of serum s-IgE/total IgE ratio in predicting clinical response to allergen-specific immunotherapy. J Allergy Clin Immunol 2009;123:1103-10, 10 e1-4.
4. Hamilton RG. Accuracy of US Food and Drug Administration-cleared IgE antibody assays in the presence of anti-IgE (omalizumab). J Allergy Clin Immunol 2006;117:759-66.

12 comments:

  1. Quest 1. Literature clearly shows that having s-IgE compared to not having s-IgE at a certain level does not prove that there is an allergy present. However, all studies clearly demonstrate that the likelyhood of having allergy increases in an individual having a certain level of s-IgE compared not to have that particular level. For instance having 10 kUA/L gives higher likelyhood than having 3 kUA/L. If the individual has increased s-IgE to several allergens tnis increases the likelyhood even further Such liklyhood further increases if the individual is of low age, eg a child, of male gender, has allergy or asthma in the family etc.
    Quest 2. The question has to be broken down to two different issues: Technical and clinical. Technically the methods need to have high precision and reproducably give whatever value they show from time to time. All three methiods do that as stated by Brock and Bob. However a given value by on of the methods may not be the same as by another of them. The best test of what is accurateis the study perfomed by Wood, Williams and others utilising chimeric antibodies and refered to by Brock. The reason for this is probably how the assays are calibrated. The easy way to demonstrate any discrepancies is to run the calibraors from one assay by the other. This has been done but has never been published since it clearly demonstrated flaws and this is senstive to the manufacturers objecting to publications. Again ImmunoCAP was shown to be accurate. Clincially, there was on study by Wang et al JACI 2007, analysing clincial samples and comparing the results to the clinical usefulness or "correctness" of the methods again speaking to the advantage of ImmunoCAP. Whether antibody affinity is important in this is tisll fairly open. The study refered to by Christensen et al needs to be confirmed.
    Quest 3.
    No assay is too sensitive, since it is more a question of risk assessment. If a test overestimate for one allergen and underestimate for another it is difficult to judge. See also above.
    Quest 4. The assays have been calibrated against each other by their manufactures (ie compared with ImmunoCAP) to show the similarity at 0.35. Since that is an artifical cut off that really does not mean a lot results from one assay can not be used and comared with another. Contrary, a result with on method at one laboratory should be possible to compare with the same mthod at a different laboratory.
    Quest 5. They are crucial. See quest 1.
    Quest 6. This is a difficult issue. I think it depends on the allergen and also of the population. Studies by Platts-Mills in colaboration with differnt groups has shown that cat in Swden is an important allergen in childhood wheeze and asthma and consititutes to a certain extent to the t-IgE. Mite is not important at all. In contrast in New Zealand mite is so important as an allergen with much higher s-IgE levels and also contributing very much to the t-IgE, whereas cat does not seem to give a significant contribution. Further in AD in childhood there are very high t-IgE and also very high s-IgE which are dfficult to interpret, but seemingly casting doubt to the improtance of s-IgE. To try to calculate some ratios is to date not plausible without having much more insight into different allergens and how they affect the immune system and also the allergic response.
    Quest 7. No further comments.
    Quest 8. Nothing further
    Quest 9. Good answers by Brock and Bob. Nothing further

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  2. Sten Dreborg, MD, PhDJuly 19, 2010 at 2:13 PM

    Dear Bob H,
    Thank you for your comment on Issue 2.

    I totally agree, IgE tests from different manufacturers – and sometimes even different batches from the same manufacturer – measure IgE-antibodies against different epitopes, i.e. thos represented on the surface of the allergen attached to the solid face.

    I have had some insight in several companies.
    The source material has been shown to differ between manufacturers regarding the content of common allergens. Der p 1 and Der p 2 has – at least earlier – differed in amount between the source materials used by different manufacturers. Similarly, the content of dog serum albumin has been dominating in the sources used by other manufacturers.
    For more complicated allergens, e.g. moulds, it is very difficult to obtain a similar result from growing the same strains under the same conditions. Thus, when I worked with others on the standardization of mould extracts for diagnosis and immunotherapy, we grow the same ten strains (frozen in small aliquots) every time, to obtain similar composition of the extracts. Since mould extracts are also extremely sensitive to degradation by their own enzymes (Cladosporium in aqueous solution is deranged after one week and not fulfilling stability criteria in glycerol 50 % after three months, IgE data on mold sensitization disagree to a high extent between manufacturers of IgE tests.

    My conclusion is that as long as we do not know the total composition and can prescribe the content of single allergens, it will be impossible measure IgE antibodies with assays designed to measure “total” specific IgE of one species in a meaningful way – that can be repeated with tests from another manufacturer or even a new batch from the same manufacturer.

    I would suggest to measure the content of different allergens on the solid phases of different manufacturers test material, to document this fact (hypothesis).

    Do you agree – or am I wrong?

    Sten Dreborg

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  3. Dr. Hamilton responds to the question from Dr. Dreborg:

    Dear Dr. Dreborg:

    Thank you for your insight into this issue of the cause(s) for the differences in the levels of IgE antibody that are measured (and reported) by the 3 commonly used assay methods in North America from Phadia, Siemens and Hycor. Your extensive experience with the allergen component portion of the IgE antibody assays provides you a unique experience that can add perspective to this issue.

    While Brock Williams currently adheres to the thought that it is principally the calibration portion of the assay that causes the different reported results among IgE antibody methods, I personally agree with you that it is the allergen reagent portion of each assay that differs in its composition and that causes each assay to bind different portions of IgE antibody of a given allergen specificity from any given patient's serum.

    Yes, one way to document this would be to measure IgE antibody levels to the same allergen components of a defined specificity in all 3 assays and examine the results for agreement and trends. I would predict that the levels of IgE antibody would agree within acceptable tolerance ranges for clinical assays if IgE anti-component measurements were done instead of using allergen extracts in the assays. Unfortunately, this analysis has not been possible at present because the same component allergens are not available in all three assays from Phadia, Siemens and Hycor.

    A second approach would be to examine the IgE anti-component patterns with one assay and then examine them for trends or patterns of reactivity that associate with either elevated or equivalent IgE antibody results between the various assay methods. We have begun such a study using peanut as a test allergen system, however, as I mentioned, it is currently not possible to measure Ara h 1, 2, 3, 8 and 9 specific IgE in all 3 assay systems used in North America. We hope that by examining a population of peanut allergic sera that have some sera produce IgE anti-peanut levels which agree and others that disagree among methods, that we will see patterns of specific IgE to defined components. This is an ongoing project and I hope it will partly clarify this issue.

    Ultimately, again I agree with you that we should not expect to see inter-method agreement of IgE antibody assays until we measure antibody using the identical allergen components in all 3 assay systems. Thank you sharing for your perspective on this issue with the community at large.

    Respectfully submitted.

    Robert Hamilton

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